Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Sonja Thomas!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Sonja Thomas, the author of


Twelve-year-old Mira’s summer is looking pretty bleak. Her best friend Thomas just moved a billion and one miles away from Florida to Washington, DC. Her dad is job searching and he’s been super down lately. Her phone screen cracked after a home science experiment gone wrong. And of all people who could have moved into Thomas’s old house down the street, Mira gets stuck with Tamika Smith, her know-it-all nemesis who’s kept Mira in second place at the school science fair four years running.

Mira’s beloved cat, Sir Fig Newton, has been the most stable thing in her life lately, but now he seems off, too. With her phone gone and no internet over the weekend at her strict Gran’s house, Mira must research Fig’s symptoms the old-fashioned way: at the library. She determines that he has “the silent cat killer” diabetes. A visit to the vet confirms her diagnosis, but that one appointment stretched family funds to the limit—they’ll never be able to afford cat insulin shots.

When Mira’s parents tell her they may have to give Fig up to people who can afford his treatment, Mira insists she can earn the $2,000 needed within a month. Armed with ingenuity, determination, and one surprising ally, can Mira save her best (four-legged) friend before it’s too late?

Let’s talk to this incredible author about her terrific book!
This is Sonja. Everyone say, “Hi, Sonja!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Sonja! Tell us about yourself!

Hi, and thanks so much for having me! My name is Sonja Thomas and I’m a silly introvert who runs on coffee and hugs. I love to dance and sing along with music and I squeal every time I see an adorable animal (Squirrel!).

A recovering CPA, I write stories for kids of all ages in all genres, but middle grade contemporaries are my sweet spot. I’m a contributing author for GOOD NIGHT STORIES FOR REBEL GIRLS: 100 REAL-LIFE TALES OF BLACK GIRL MAGIC. My debut middle grade novel, SIR FIG NEWTON AND THE SCIENCE OF PERSISTENCE, is out now.

What was the inspiration behind SIR FIG NEWTON AND THE SCIENCE OF PERSISTENCE?

The inspiration for SIR FIG NEWTON AND THE SCIENCE OF PERSISTENCE came from real life. My first cat Whiskey was diagnosed with diabetes and a co-worker had shared with his young son, who has Type I diabetes, that my cat was receiving insulin shots. His son was so excited, that he’d said, “If a cat can get insulin shots, then so can I!” That’s when I knew I had to write Whiskey’s story.

Aw! That is so lovely!

We love hearing stories about ‘The Call’ here on Kick-butt Kidlit. What were you doing when you found out your book had sold?

It was February 2020 and I was doing tax returns when I’d found out that my book had sold! The first thing I did was call my mom. It was incredibly hard to go back to work, but I certainly had a smile on my face all day long. 

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on SIR FIG NEWTON AND THE SCIENCE OF PERSISTENCE?

1. I had so much fun researching and trying out different experiments, like grape plasma balls, growing a crystal garden, and building a catapult.

2. I had the best time deciding what fun tee shirt slogans Mira’s STEM Camp teacher would wear. Some I made up myself, like “STEM Girls Just Want to Have Fun,” while others I owned or found online, like “Black Holes Are Out of Sight.”

3. Growing up near Kennedy Space Center, I’d often imagined myself an astronaut, just like my main character, Mira. However, I never thought it was possible for someone like me—a Black female—to go into space. During my research, I was incredibly inspired to learn about women of color who’d accomplished amazing things in STEM. Hopefully readers will be too!  

We need a video series with all of these experiments you did!

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

I would love to transport Mira and Sir Fig Newton into the sci-fi middle grade novel TROUBLE IN THE STARS by Sarah Prineas. Mainly so Mira could realize her dream of going into space. Not only could she study the stars, planets, and galaxies up close, but she’d also get to meet humanoids, reptilians, and insectoids! And I’m sure that after Trouble met Sir Fig Newton, they would choose to shapeshift into a kitten instead of a puppy!

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

When I’d started writing with the intention of getting published, I first focused on picture books. After receiving many rejections, I tried my hand at young adult. Again, I received many, many rejections. Then I wrote SIR FIG NEWTON and I’d finally found my voice.

I love writing middle grade because it’s when we’re first discovering who we are, where we fit in, and how to navigate our world. But what I love most is that no matter how difficult the topic, middle grade reads are infused with hope.

Any hints about your next book project?

I can’t talk too much about it yet, but it’s another contemporary middle grade novel, this time set in Portland, Oregon with beavers and bits of magic!

Ooooh, can’t wait!

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

Even though I already knew it takes about two years for a book to be published from the date a book is sold, I now understand WHY. From big picture edits to line edits to copy edits and the list goes on—there are so many steps along the way!

What are you reading right now?

I just finished reading LEARNING TO FALL by Sally Engelfried in one sitting! If you love heartwarming novels with family drama and skateboarding, then definitely add this middle grade debut, releasing September 6th, to your TBR pile.

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

In 2011, I entered a contest hoping to win first prize: a personalized letter from my favorite children’s author, Judy Blume. I didn’t get first place, but was in the top five, and was shocked when I received a personalized email, including this kick-butt advice:

My only advice, never give up, and never let anyone discourage you. Determination is as important as anything.

Writing isn’t easy. But despite all the rejection and self-doubt, I held onto these words and now I’m a kidlit author, just like my idol! 

Awesome! We’re glad you listed to Judy!

Thank you so much for joining us, Sonja!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Sheela Chari!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Sheela Chari, the author of


Karthik Raghavan is good at remembering things. Like his bike routes. Or all the reasons he likes Juhi Shah—even if she doesn’t even know he exists. It doesn’t help that she seems to have a crush on his arch nemesis, Jacob Donnell, whose only job is to humiliate Karthik (and get his name wrong).

Then Karthik’s luck changes when he secretly agrees to be in a play about the famous musician, Leonard Bernstein. But he can’t tell his parents. The family store is in jeopardy, and they need him delivering groceries on his bike to help save it. His mom is also worried about the Financial Crisis, and she’s convinced that studying hard and staying focused is the only way to succeed.

But Karthik is having fun being Lenny. Besides, what if acting is Karthik’s special talent? And what if acting is the one way to catch Juhi Shah’s attention? With all the pressure from his family to succeed, will Karthik be able to really imagine and hope when he’s not sure what will happen next?

Let’s talk to this fabulous author about her awesome book!
This is Sheela. Everyone say, “Hi, Sheela!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Sheela! Tell us about yourself!

Hi Casey! Thank you for having me on your blog. I’m a children’s author and teacher, and my most recent book, Karthik Delivers, is a humorous middle grade novel about a boy who thinks he might want to be an actor some day.

What was the inspiration behind KARTHIK DELIVERS?

Karthik works as a delivery boy in his dad’s Indian grocery store when he gets the chance to act as a lead in a play about the young Leonard Berstein. One of the reasons Karthik is asked is because of his amazing ability to remember things, especially in list form in his head. I’m someone who keeps lists, too, except I write them down because I’m so bad at remembering! I wanted to write about someone who has an incredible memory but doesn’t know how he will make use of this unusual talent.

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on KARTHIK DELIVERS?

1. I loved writing humor! I didn’t think I would be good at it, but seeing the world through Karthik’s eyes was so much fun.

2. I loved learning about Leonard Bernstein’s life — he is best known for writing the music to West Side Story. I grew up playing classical violin and music from West Side Story, and knew I wanted to use Bernstein as a source of inspiration for Karthik, who is also considering a creative path.

3. Success and failure, beginnings and endings, happiness and disappointment — these all go hand in hand. And that’s okay.

Humor is the best! So glad you had fun with it!

Aside from your novels, you also contributed a story to the SUPER PUZZLETASTIC MYSTERIES anthology. How was the process of writing a short story different from writing one of your novels? 

I really love short stories — I enjoy the compressed storytelling, and the ability to focus on a single moment of change in a character’s life. In a mystery story, it’s especially interesting to think about suspense, suspicious characters, and planting clues in a short space. The challenge is getting it all in there and still allowing your detectives to solve a mystery in a satisfying way. 

Wow! That definitely sounds like it would be a challenge! But a fun one!

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

Middle grade and middle school are a special and transformative time in a young people’s lives, when they are just starting to feel a sense of independence and agency. I love the humor and sensitivity of this age group.

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

Every book is completely different. Some books have come to me very quickly. Others have taken years to complete. Starting is always hard.

But finishing a project is always the best feeling in the world.

What are you reading right now?

I recently finished Finding Langston by Lesa Cline-Ransome.

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

Don’t let a single project define you. You will have highs and lows, but the most important part you can do as a writer is to keep writing.

Evergreen advice!

Thank you so much for joining us, Sheela!

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It’s on shelves now!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Katryn Bury!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Katryn Bury, the author of


Drew Leclair knows what it takes to be a great detective. She’s pored over the cases solved by her hero, criminal profiler Lita Miyamoto. She tracked down the graffiti artist at school, and even solved the mystery of her neighbor’s missing rabbit. But when her mother runs off to Hawaii with the school guidance counselor, Drew is shocked. How did she miss all of the clues?

Drew is determined to keep her family life a secret, even from her best friend. But when a cyberbully starts posting embarrassing rumors about other students at school, it’s only a matter of time before Drew’s secret is out.

Armed with her notebooks full of observations about her classmates, Drew knows what she has to do: profile all of the bullies in her grade to find the culprit. But being a detective is more complicated when the suspects can be your friends. Will Drew crack the case if it means losing the people she cares about most?

Let’s talk to this phenomenal author about her terrific book!
This is Katryn. Everyone say, “Hi, Katryn!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Katryn! Tell us about yourself!

Hi! Thanks so much for inviting me to interview. My name is Katryn Bury, and I’m the author of Drew Leclair Gets a Clue, a middle grade mystery. My favorite pastimes (other than reading or writing, of course!) is hanging out with my amazing family in our hometown–Oakland, CA.

What was the inspiration behind DREW LECLAIR GETS A CLUE?

I’m a longtime true crime fan (much like my main character, Drew) and I was taking long walks while listening to Michelle McNamera’s I’ll Be Gone in the Dark audiobook. In another life, I wanted to be a criminal profiler or a true crime writer. Listening to that book, I wondered what could have been different if I’d had a role model like Michelle McNamera. Thus, Drew Leclair was born, and her hero (based on Michelle), Lita Miyamoto. Once I had that idea, it was so fun to create a character that “profiles” her classmates.

We love hearing stories about ‘The Call’ here on Kick-butt Kidlit. What were you doing when you found out your book had sold?

It was a fantastic day. It was November 2020, and we had just found out the day before that Joe Biden officially won the election. I live in Oakland, so there was a lot of celebration in our neighborhood and we were riding high after lots of stress from the pandemic and the election season. The morning after, I woke up to a call from my agent. We had a pre-empt two book offer from the fantastic Emilia Rhodes. So, another day of celebration commenced!

Sounds like an awesome good news WEEK!

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on DREW LECLAIR GETS A CLUE?

I think the first thing I realized writing this book was that I still felt the impact of my years of bullying as a kid. Even as a fun mystery, the bullying really stands out in this book. I think that’s because I was working through something really personal to me. Second, I discovered that mysteries are my favorite genre to write. I love forming clues and red herrings, like Drew does on her crime boards! Lastly, I realized that it’s really hard to talk about true crime in a book for kids without any of the gory details you’d normally get. It was hard to walk that line!

Mystery books are truly one of the best genres. 😀

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

Oh, Nancy Drew for sure! Drew Leclair is named after Nancy Drew, the mystery queen herself. I’d love to see Drew join that famous mystery solving trio to solve a crime. 

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

I think there’s something really special that happens in that “between” age. You’re really figuring out who you are, as well as who you want to be. For me, it’s the true coming of age space and I find that time so compelling to write about.

Any hints about your next book project?

Yes! There should be an official announcement forthcoming, but I’ve been told it’s not a secret. Drew Leclair has a second book coming next spring! I really love the character, so getting the honor of revisiting her for a second story was just incredible.

Oh, yay! Congrats!

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

I think the most surprising part has been the fits and starts. I was writing for 30 years before I got an agent, but it was a very slow process. I would write books, send out a handful of query letters, and then give up. I started to pursue it more vigorously in 2017 and that process was slow as well. I probably racked up around 250 rejections. However, when I pitched Drew Leclair Gets a Clue on Twitter for #DvPit (a fantastic program I highly recommend, founded by Beth Phelan), everything happened very fast. I got five offers and, after only two weeks on sub, made a sale. Of course, after that, the wait for pub day was agonizing!

What are you reading right now?

I’m reading Erin Entrada Kelly’s Hello Universe. I’ve read almost all of her other books but somehow never got to the Newbery winner. I just love her writing. Next up I’m extremely excited to read Tae Keller’s newest book, Jennifer Chan is Not Alone. I’m a big alien person, and this is one I truly can’t wait for.

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

I give this advice frequently, but here it is: don’t feel bad if you’re sensitive. All along this process, I was advised to “grow a thick skin.” The thing is, that’s hard for sensitive people. And our sensitivity comes out in all sorts of fantastic ways (including really authentic characters!) so I would never suggest you change yourself. Getting rejected is really hard and it’s okay to feel all of your feelings as long as you don’t give up!

So, so, so true and a great reminder.

Thank you so much for joining us, Katryn!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Meera Trehan!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Meera Trehan, the author of


Sam and Asha. Asha and Sam. A perfect pair of friends whose differences complement well, and whose main similarity, autism, means they understand each other. They are a fixture, an established thing, just as Donnybrooke, the mansion that sits on the highest hill in Coreville, is the acknowledged best house in town—and Asha’s dream home. But when Sam is accepted into elite Castleton Academy, leaving Asha to navigate public middle school alone, she begins to wonder if the things she is certain about are so fixed after all. Because soon Sam is spending time with Prestyn, Asha’s tormentor whose family also happens to own Donnybrooke, and who have forbidden Asha from setting foot inside.

Let’s talk to this incredible author about her excellent book!
This is Meera. Everyone say, “Hi, Meera!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Meera! Tell us about yourself!

I’m Meera Trehan, and my debut middle grade is THE VIEW FROM THE VERY BEST HOUSE IN TOWN. I’m represented by Molly Ker Hawn at The Bent Agency which, as you know, makes me Very Lucky.

Very Lucky Indeed! (*Note: I [Casey Lyall, Kick-butt Kidlit Interviewer] am also represented by Molly Ker Hawn and can verify the above statement as true facts.)

What was the inspiration behind THE VIEW FROM THE VERY BEST HOUSE IN TOWN?

I was inspired to find answers to my own questions as a parent: What do we tell kids we value—kindness, caring—and what do we show them we value—social status, conventional achievement? How does the near universal desire to make our kids happy sometimes lead to so much unhappiness? Also, I was thinking about subtle and not-so subtle form of ableism. I was also thinking about how the forces that can makes friendships fray as kids get older, and all the emotions and questions I’ve had when some of my own friendships have faded.

Eventually, characters and something of a plot came in, and after multiple drafts that coalesced into this book. My publisher has described it as part thriller, part friendship story and part real estate listing, and while I absolutely love that description, I didn’t know that is what the book would become when I first sat down to write.

How did you tackle writing from multiple points of view in this book – especially when one was from the house itself!

This was my first time writing from multiple views—I tried to trust my instincts and remind myself I could always fix things later. The voices of the character of Asha and the over-the-top house, Donnybrooke, came to me early in the process. Writing Donnybrooke was a ton of fun—it was making me laugh, so I just went with it, knowing I could always revise. (And I did. A lot.). Writing from a non-human point of view was actually very liberating—it allowed me to say things and explore themes that just wouldn’t have worked if Donnybrooke had been a person. I did a couple drafts with just Asha and Donnybrooke, but the story felt thin. So then I started writing things from Sam’s point of view to understand the story better, and it became clear that he was such an integral part of it that we needed his voice too.

After I had a solid draft with all three POVs, I made a careful chapter by chapter outline, detailing who would be narrating which events. (There had been a fair amount of overlap as I just tried to pin down each voice). I then did another draft where I wrote one POV at a time to make sure each had its own distinctive voice and arc. And then I revised the story as a whole some more! I suppose it was a lot of work, but I think novels always are—it’s just a question of what kind of work. And this was work that let me tell the story I wanted to tell.

Love behind the scenes tidbits like this! What a smart way to work through the process!

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on THE VIEW FROM THE VERY BEST HOUSE IN TOWN?

Here are three that you can find in my book:

In a medieval European castle, you wanted to have your well inside the castle walls so that your enemies couldn’t poison your drinking supply. I learned this (and many other facts) from David Macauley’s classic book, CASTLE.

I discovered that one version of the Castleton coat-of-arms has three twisted snakes on it. Castleton Academy is the name of the snobbish private school Sam attends, and when I saw that snake coat-of-arms, I had to work it in the story.

And finally, I discovered more types of weathervanes than I’d ever imagined, though I knew as soon as I saw it that the eagle-and-fish weathervane would be the one on top of Donnybrooke.

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

I would transport Asha to GREENGLASS HOUSE by Kate Milford. I think she would love the smuggler’s inn and also Milo and Meddy. I would transport Sam into COSMOS by Carl Sagan; Sam would have a blast not just being immersed in space, but also updating the book with the knowledge we’ve learned since it’s been published. I’m sure Donnybrooke would love to be transported into the pages of Architectural Digest magazine, but that might be too much for its ego.

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

The simple answer is that those are the stories I think of. But I think the reasons for that are those middle grade years are a time where there’s so much change, where everything that once seemed settled is now in flux, where there’s intense questioning—and that gives me a lot to write about. I particularly like to explore how friendships and family shape people, and middle grade feels like it’s made for that. And for me, the key elements of a story are honesty and hope, and I think describes middle grade at its best.

I also like that middle grade is such a broad category in terms of tone, length, and genre. As an author, I feel like there’s space for me to experiment in middle grade craft-wise, and I love to see how other authors chose to tell their stories. Finally, I remember so clearly what it was like to be a kid, and I really like kids, so to be able to write for them is wonderful. You have to have a good story that will keep the pages turning, and that is something I appreciate.

Yes! Love that there’s so much room to explore in middle grade.

Any hints about your next book project?

It’s a middle grade fantasy with a lot of snow. When I started drafting, I was in serious denial that I was writing a fantasy—my logic was that since I didn’t know how to write a fantasy, this book I’m writing couldn’t possibly be a fantasy. It just happened to have a little magic in it. Eventually, I realized that maybe I should re-examine my initial premise, lol.

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

When I started I wasn’t really thinking about the writing community, and how important the writer friends I made would be to my journey. This is an incredible community—generous, supportive, and kind—and I’ve made some very close friends who have cheered me on through all of the ups and downs.

I’ve also really lucked out working with Walker/Candlewick. My cover and book design are amazing (thank you Nicole Miles and Maya Tatsukawa!); my editor, Susan Van Metre is so thoughtful and precise; my publicist Karen Walsh is so helpful and responsive. Really everyone I’ve worked with has just been great. When I was writing I was so focused on my words, and not the team that would turn the story into a beautiful book. Seeing what it has become has been the best kind of surprise.

What are you reading right now?

I just finished ELATSOE by Darcie Little Badger. Highly recommend! It’s a real page-turner, deliciously creepy, satisfying, and ultimately thought-provoking. It is filled with a larger symbolism that only adds to the terrific story. Also, ghost dog!

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

Really, I have two pieces: My first is my meta-advice on advice, which is not all advice applies to everyone. There are so many ways to write a book, and so many paths to get there. If you very my advice stressful or invalidating, please feel free to ignore it! I say this because so many times when I was starting out, I would get very stressed by advice, particularly from agents or editors, that I had to do things in a certain way that I knew wouldn’t work for me. It took me some time to trust in my own process.

All that said, my biggest piece of advice is to give yourself time. There are many things that really help my writing process: reading widely inside the age categories and genres I write in, reading widely outside of them, working on craft at the line level, building a writing community and finding critique partners, doing side writing and other exercises to get to know my characters and story, using visuals like maps to understand my setting, doing research to get the details right, taking long breaks between drafts so that I can better approach my work as a reader . . . the list goes on and on.

But here’s the thing: I didn’t do all these things in weeks or even months. It took years and years, and even though I didn’t want it to take that long to be published, my writing is much better for having that time. It takes most writers a long time, and it is completely okay if it is taking you a long time too. Just try to have fun with the process, and don’t be hard on yourself if some days are not good or you need a break. There are so many ways to build your craft!


Thank you so much for joining us, Meera!

Kick-butt Kidlit friends, make sure you check out
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Connect with Meera on Twitter or through her website!

Click here to enter to win a copy of THE VIEW FROM THE VERY BEST HOUSE IN TOWN!
Contest closes Friday, May 13th at 11:59 pm EST

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Waka T. Brown!

Hello, friends! Welcome to our first interview of 2022!

Find a comfy seat and relax because it’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Waka T. Brown, the author of


As the daughter of immigrants who came to America for a better life, Annie Inoue was raised to dream big. And at the start of seventh grade, she’s channeling that irrepressible hope into becoming the lead in her school play.

So when Annie lands an impressive role in the production of The King and I, she’s thrilled . . . until she starts to hear grumbles from her mostly white classmates that she only got the part because it’s an Asian play with Asian characters. Is this all people see when they see her? Is this the only kind of success they’ll let her have–one that they can tear down or use race to belittle?

Disheartened but determined, Annie channels her hurt into a new dream: showing everyone what she’s made of.

Waka T. Brown, author of While I Was Away, delivers an uplifting coming-of-age story about a Japanese American girl’s fight to make space for herself in a world that claims to celebrate everyone’s differences but doesn’t always follow through.

Let’s talk to this splendid author about her wonderful book!
This is Waka. Everyone say, “Hi, Waka!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Waka! Tell us about yourself!

I’ve loved stories forever, but my first foray into writing was in screenplays. I received a lot of “encouraging rejections” for them over the years—which kept me going—but I never had a feature picked up. A few years ago, I had a 10-minute short film produced, but that was also around the time I decided to write While I Was Away, which resulted in my participation in Pitch Wars, then finding my agent, and then landing my first book deal. I also have three boys, a husband, and a naughty but loveable pup, and live with them in the Portland, Oregon area.

Cool! Always love to meet a fellow Pitch Wars alum!

What was the inspiration behind DREAM, ANNIE, DREAM?

My first book While I Was Away explored my experiences in Japan as a Japanese American. While Dream, Annie, Dream is fiction, in some ways it’s the flip side of the coin to my first novel, in that it explores what it was like to be one of the only Japanese Americans in Topeka, Kansas during a time where there was a lot of anti-Japanese sentiment (related to trade friction) throughout the United States.

Even though it’s a story that takes place in the 1980s, I found that there were a lot of parallels with what is still happening today in terms of microaggressions and misunderstandings about what is good/bad representation. As with many current events, the roots of what is happening can be found in history and so that is how the idea for Dream, Annie, Dream was born.

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on DREAM, ANNIE, DREAM?

I loved conducting my research for Dream, Annie, Dream! I have many friends who are children of first-generation Asian immigrants, and through them I learned a lot of their parents’ stories and how they ended up in the United States. Some were similar to my own parents’ path; some were quite different and really quite surprising! But the majority of them were able to immigrate here due to the passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, something that I had never learned about growing up.

I had also read the TIME Magazine article about “Those Asian American Whiz Kids” when it was first published in 1987, but when I went back and read it again for my research, it was fascinating to revisit how Asian Americans were perceived at that time (and how little has changed).

In addition, it was interesting to delve more deeply into how Asians were portrayed in film, the prevalence of casting non-Asian actors in Asian roles, and to analyze some of the problematic themes in the musical The King and I.

For our aspiring writers out there, what do you think are some of the key elements to capturing that ‘just right’ middle grade voice?

Since I came from screenwriting, when I first wrote While I Was Away, I basically gave myself a crash course in middle grade writing through reading a whole bunch of middle grade books, and it was so much fun. Reading these recently published middle grade novels reminded me of why I fell in love with stories as a kid, and it was like I was playing catch up in the best sort of way. Also, I had very kind mentors and more experienced authors offering me writing tips along the way. Finally, my two younger boys are squarely in middle grade territory, and they often regale me with some very eye-opening facts about kids their age!

Oh, excellent! That must have been informative AND entertaining! 😀

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

Hmm… this is a hard one. Part of me would like to transport Annie into a contemporary novel in which characters are used to and welcome diversity, but another part of me would like to transport her back to Prince Edward Island where she could be friends with Anne Shirley. They’re both dreamers, feel like they don’t quite fit in, and don’t let much stand in their way. I loved Anne of Green Gables when I was a little girl and identified with her a lot even though I’m not a red-haired orphan living in the late 1800s. I really hope all kids will find some aspect of Annie Inoue’s story to identify with in the same way.

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

Middle grade is such an honest but intense age in which kids are navigating that transition from childhood—from a time in which parents are their world—into one in which they have more choices and can be more independent. In hindsight, it was also one of the most difficult times for me growing up (and I know for many other people!) so, if there’s anything my words can do to make the time a little easier to get through, that makes me happy.

Any hints about your next book project?

Well, the book I’m currently working on is The Very Unfortunate Wish of Melony Yoshimura (Summer 2023) which is a contemporary re-telling of the Japanese folktale “The Melon Princess and the Amanjaku.” It’s a bit different from my first two books in that it’s contemporary magical realism. But, like my first two stories, at its center is a spirited, imperfect girl trying to find her way.

Sounds amazing! Looking forward to it!

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

I guess that I can write? Over the years I’ve received so many rejections, and while some have been kind and encouraging, I think subconsciously part of me believed maybe I was receiving all these rejections because I just couldn’t write. Also, when I read other authors’ works, I’m constantly in awe of their prose, creativity, etc. so you could say I have a healthy (unhealthy?) dose of imposter syndrome. So, it’s been surprising in the best way when people reach out and let me know that they’ve enjoyed my stories. It’s something that I always hoped for, and it’s still hard for me to believe sometimes that I’m a published author.

What are you reading right now?

I’m about to dive into Axie Oh’s The Girl Who Fell Beneath the Sea.

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

I think all of us experience those times where we encounter obstacles in our writing, whether it’s a plot hole, or we’re just floundering around in the mucky middle, and we just feel “stuck.” So, my favorite advice that I’ve received is so simple, but deserves repeating—“You can fix it later.” Just keep on writing and know that the magic often happens in the revisions.

YES! Such an important thing to remember. Well said.

Thank you for joining us, Waka!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Chad Lucas!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Chad Lucas, the author of


Brian has always been anxious, whether at home, or in class, or on the basketball court. His dad tries to get him to stand up for himself and his mom helps as much as she can, but after he and his brother are placed in foster care, Brian starts having panic attacks. And he doesn’t know if things will ever be “normal” again . . . Ezra’s always been popular. He’s friends with most of the kids on his basketball team—even Brian, who usually keeps to himself. But now, some of his friends have been acting differently, and Brian seems to be pulling away. Ezra wants to help, but he worries if he’s too nice to Brian, his friends will realize that he has a crush on him . . .
But when Brian and his brother run away, Ezra has no choice but to take the leap and reach out. Both boys have to decide if they’re willing to risk sharing parts of themselves they’d rather hide. But if they can be brave, they might just find the best in themselves—and each other.

Let’s talk to this fantastic author about his wonderful book!
This is Chad. Everyone say, “Hi, Chad!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Chad! Tell us about yourself!

Hi, and thanks for having me! I’ve been writing in one form or another for most of my life, including a decade as a newspaper reporter, but I’ve always been passionate about writing for kids. My debut middle grade novel, THANKS A LOT, UNIVERSE, came out in May. I live in beautiful Nova Scotia with my family, I love the ocean, and I drink an awful lot of tea while I’m writing.

Ah, yes – I often measure how much writing had been done by how much tea has been had. 😂

What was the inspiration behind THANKS A LOT, UNIVERSE?

I can’t really point to one defining moment or source. I borrowed loosely—very loosely—from some of my own experiences as a kid, but it’s not an autobiographical book. I drew mostly on the scary questions that most of us ask ourselves at different points: “Should I let anyone know what’s really going on inside my brain? Is it safe? Will it make things better or worse?” Brian and Ezra both wrestle with different versions of this same dilemma, and the story evolved as I got to know them both.

What are your favourite ways to infuse a character’s voice into a novel? 

This book is written in alternating first-person chapters, so I incorporated some of Brian and Ezra’s personalities into how I wrote their chapters to make them sound distinct. Brian tends to second-guess himself and jump to worst-case scenarios, so some of his chapters have sections called Brian versus Brian where he argues with himself, or lists with increasingly catastrophic possibilities. Ezra’s more outgoing, so I included some text conversations with his friends in his chapters. For me, playing with format is a fun way to reflect a character’s voice and how they experience the world.

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on THANKS A LOT, UNIVERSE?

– I learned where books on beekeeping are shelved in the library. (638.1!)
– I listened to several songs about werewolves to consider what would make Ezra’s all-werewolf playlist. (My favourite—and Ezra’s too—is “Wolf Like Me” by TV on the Radio.)
– I rewatched highlights from Game 3 of the 2017 NBA Finals. (Kevin Durant was the hero or the villain, depending on your perspective. Ezra’s friend Ty is sure he’s the villain.)

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

I love so many great middle grade books that this was a surprisingly hard question to choose one answer. But I think Brian and Ezra would both find their place in Culeco Academy of the Arts, the delightfully odd school in Carlos Hernandez’s SAL AND GABI BREAK THE UNIVERSE. It’s a wonderfully accepting environment for weirdos.

That’s a great choice!

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

I really like this age. I get to hang out with middle graders often, as a parent and a basketball coach, and they’re always cracking me up. It’s also an age when they’re beginning to think about big topics like who they are, what they care about, and what they believe about the world. The possibilities of writing for this age are endless.

Any hints about your next book project?

Thankfully I can do more than hint! My next middle grade book is called LET THE MONSTER OUT and it releases in May 2022. It’s the story of a Black boy named Quentin “Bones” Malone who moves to a small town where strange things start happening: his mom and other adults go through zombie-like personality changes, and kids experience each other’s nightmares. Bones and his new friends have to figure out what’s going on—and confront their own fears—before something sinister takes over the whole town. This was a very different book to write and I’m looking forward to having it out in the world.

Sounds awesome!

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

It probably sounds corny to say that the best surprise has been the friends I’ve made along the way, but it’s true! Getting to know other writers has made a big difference. Publishing can be such a roller coaster, and it’s been so helpful to have people who understand the journey. And cheering on each other’s successes is just the best feeling.

What are you reading right now?

My youngest son and I are reading BLACK BOY JOY, edited by Kwame Mbalia, and it’s a delightful anthology that makes me wish (again) that we had more short story collections for middle graders. And I just finished the audiobook of WEIRD KID by Greg Van Eekhout, about a seventh grader who’s secretly a blob of interstellar goo. It’s one of the funniest books I’ve read all year.

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

I think one of the most important skills for any writer to learn is the fine art of receiving feedback. Taking good advice is essential—you won’t go far if you’re convinced your prose is flawless and above editing. But not all advice is good advice, and so much in publishing is subjective. In my querying years, I once got two rejections on the same day from two agents who gave completely opposite feedback. One said I was over-explaining in my dialogue, and the other insisted I was leaving too much unsaid! So my kick-butt advice is: seek out feedback, and hone your instincts. Both are important in helping you make your stories stronger.  


Thank you for joining us, Chad!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Jenni L. Walsh!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Jenni L. Walsh, the author of


Sybil Ludington believes in the legend of fireflies—they appear when you need them most. But it’s not until her family is thrust into the dangers of the Revolutionary War, and into George Washington’s spy ring, that Sybil experiences firefly magic for herself—guiding her through the darkness, empowering her to figure out who she’s supposed to be and how strong she really is—as she delivers her imperative message and warns against a British attack.

BY THE LIGHT OF FIREFLIES is the captivating tale of a young girl’s journey as a daughter, a sister, a friend, a spy, and eventually a war hero, completing a midnight ride that cements her place in history as the “female Paul Revere.”

Let’s talk to this lovely author about her excellent book!
This is Jenni. Everyone say, “Hi, Jenni!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Jenni! Why don’t we start with some introductions – tell us about yourself!

Thank you for having me! I’m coming to you from outside of Philadelphia, where we’ve just gotten our first bit of frost and my kids are already multiple pages into their lists for Santa. When I’m not wrangling said kids, I’m usually found at my desk. By the Light of Fireflies is my eighth book and I’m thankful for my job every single day.

What was the inspiration behind BY THE LIGHT OF FIREFLIES?

It was truly an honor to write this novel about Sybil Ludington, a little known Revolutionary War heroine. She’s often known as the “female Paul Revere” but she rode twice as far, was half Paul Revere’s age, and completed her own midnight ride all by herself. *Mic drop*

This feat was so spectacular and unbelievable that some people believe her ride was nothing more than a story. But I believe that Sybil accomplished something magical, just like the Sybil in my story believes in the magic of fireflies, and that on April 26, 1777 she truly made a daring ride to warn of an attack by the British.

I also had the opportunity to expand on Sybil’s story. She was more than the “female Paul Revere.” Sybil was a spy (yes, for George Washington!), a sister (sooo many siblings), a daughter, a friend, and someone who broke the mold for young girls of her time. I hope you enjoy Sybil’s story as much as I enjoyed writing it!

Wow! It sounds like she was an incredible person!

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on BY THE LIGHT OF FIREFLIES?  

As mentioned, Sybil was involved in George Washignton’s spy ring and learning more about the spying techniques, such as how to make invisible ink and their system of sending/receiving codes was quite interesting. Something else interesting I unearthed is that fireflies (I know many of us also call them lightning bugs) are neither a bug or a fly. They’re actually beetles. Talk about being mis-characteristized! 

Beetles?! Who knew?

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

I present Sybil as a young woman who pushes the gender boundaries of her time. I think she’d enjoy being in a contemporary novel where she’s more free to be who she wants to be. In a historical setting, I could see Sybil enjoying playing the part of Pinkerton agent Kate Warne’s niece in The Detective’s Assistant.

Let’s talk book research! You’ve written quite a bit of historical fiction. What are your best tips for keeping your research organized? And how do you know when it’s time to stop researching and start writing?

I’ve recently begun writing in Scrivener and it’s been life changing. I used to have multiple word documents–novel timeline, era timeline, notes, deleted content, chapter summaries–that I’d jump between. Now it’s all in one place and it’s a beautiful thing. I usually research until I have a general sense of the who, what, where, when, how of my story. By this point, I’ve usually found my voice and I’m eager to use it. I do quite a bit of research as I’m writing, too.

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

I write for both adults and children. Adult books are sometimes twice as long as middle grade books. But what I love about middle grade novels is that you aren’t getting any less of a story. It’s just that middle grade novels pack a punch in fewer pages.

So true!

Any hints about your next book project?

I’ll give a huge hint! My next book is called Over and Out and it will be released in March of 2022 🙂 It’s the story of a young girl named Sophie who was born, raised, and who feels trapped on the east side of the Berlin Wall. Sophie has always dreamed of more for herself than East Berlin can give her. She wants to be an inventor. So, naturally, Sophie and her best friend try to invent a way over and out.

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

Well, I never had aspirations to be a novelist. As a child, I enjoyed reading and I enjoyed writing, but that was the extent of it. But then my life winded me to a time and place where the thought of writing a novel was put in my head. It’s been about ten years and I’ve never looked back.

What are you reading right now?

I’ve just begun an audiobook of The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune (an adult book). The story’s still building, but so far I can say the narrator is excellent!

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

Keep going. Keep reading. Keep writing. Keep doing. My journey hasn’t always been easy, but if I would’ve given up (and boy did I have that thought once or twice), then By the Light of Fireflies never would’ve come to be, and I really love this book! 

I hope everyone takes that advice to heart!

Thank you for joining us, Jenni!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Mark Oshiro!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Mark Oshiro, the author of


Three kids who don’t belong. A room that shouldn’t exist. A year that will change everything.

San Francisco and Orangevale may be in the same state, but for Héctor Muñoz, they might as well be a million miles apart. Back home, being gay didn’t mean feeling different. At Héctor’s new school, he couldn’t feel more alone.

Most days, Héctor just wishes he could disappear. And he does. Right into the janitor’s closet. (Yes, he sees the irony.) But one day, when the door closes behind him, Héctor discovers he’s stumbled into a room that shouldn’t be possible. A room that connects him with two new friends from different corners of the country—and opens the door to a life-changing year full of magic, friendship, and adventure.

Let’s talk to this wonderful author about their fantastic book!
This is Mark. Everyone say, “Hi, Mark!”

Photo Credit: Zoraida Córdova

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Mark! Why don’t we start with some introductions – tell us about yourself!

I’m Mark Oshiro, a kidlit author of both young adult and middle grade. I’ve written Anger is a GiftEach of Us a Desert, and my upcoming MG debut, The Insiders. When I’m not writing, I’m usually doing something outdoors, petting a dog, or on a rollercoaster. 

What was the inspiration behind THE INSIDERS? 

The origins of this book come from the very first manuscript I ever completed, back when I was a freshman in college. It was roundly rejected by everyone I sent it to. (I also didn’t understand that maybe you should send it to agents ONLY, and I definitely printed it out and sent THE WHOLE THING to a bunch of editors. I held on to a copy of it all these years and revisited it when I was looking at old projects for inspiration! The idea itself was pretty simple: I wanted to write a story with a gay Latino as the protagonist, and I had this idea of him finding a magical closet that took him on adventures. It was a way for me to reclaim the notion of being “in the closet.”

Oh, wow! I love that you never gave up on the story!

This is your first middle grade novel (yay!) after starting in YA. Why were you drawn to writing for a younger age level?

I wanted to challenge myself, first of all. I’ve read a lot of middle grade over the years and respected how difficult it seemed to write for that age level. I’m happy to report that it was indeed a challenge! But much like my inspiration for writing young adult fiction, I needed the kind of literature coming out now when I was a kid. I write with that mindset: there’s always a queer kid of color out there who needs to feel a little less alone.

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on THE INSIDERS?

First thing—and this is kinda cheesy—I learned that I could write middle grade! I honestly wasn’t sure I could when I started, but I’m glad I did after having written and published two other books. 

Second thing: There’s a joke about Capri Sun that’s probably my favorite silly moment in the book, and it caused me to seek out Capri Sun again, and that drink STILL slaps. And there are so many more flavors now! 

Third Thing: I still don’t know how time works. In literally every story I’ve ever written that takes place over more than a couple days, my copyeditors have all found incredibly bizarre mistakes concerning the progression of the days of the week. In an early draft of Anger, I fully skipped Wednesday every week; in Desert, I once had a day passing in four hours; and in The Insiders, my copyeditor pointed out that my protagonist couldn’t count days at ALL. I believe all of this says more about me than anything else.

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

I’m cheating because it’s not out yet and none of you can read it yet, but the world of The Marvellers by Dhonielle Clayton. It’s the start of a middle grade fantasy series, and Dhonielle has so cleverly re-thought the tradition of a magical school, and I am certain the characters of The Insiders would thrive there. 

AH! So jealous that you’ve read it! So excited for when it’s out next year!

For our writer friends reading this, what are your best writer’s block busting tips?

I stop writing and go do literally anything else that isn’t writing. Push-ups, a bike ride, a hike, an hour of video games, chores around the house—all of it gets my brain focusing on other things and usually shakes something free in my mind. It’s also possible that writer’s block is happening because you need to refill your creative well or take a break. I know we’re all stressed and overworked right now, and the best thing I’ve learned in the last couple years is that I have to take time off or burnout will take control of me.

Any hints about your next book project? 

So, I’ve been frighteningly prolific since I finish writing the first draft of The Insiders at the end of February 2020. Publishing is weird in that we’re often working on projects that are years out from release. I’ve actually finished three books since then, and they’re all in various stages of editing right now. I have two books out next year. Both are middle grade! One is a big ol’ secret, and the other is my second book for Harper Collins. It’s not a sequel to The Insiders, but another speculative fiction standalone about regret, time travel, and the most annoying magical companion of all time. I also have a third YA out in the near future, and it’s a contemporary thriller about a cult. 

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

The support of educators and students. I grew up believing that books taught in school had to have been out for a billion years, that they had to be “classics,” and that generally speaking, only old and/or dead white men were used in that setting. I have lost count of the number of classrooms, schools, educational programs, reading clubs, book clubs, and literacy programs have used my YA books in an educational setting. Like… I’m also slightly sorry that my book made some kids do homework, but I’m still SHOOK. I never expected it in my wildest dreams, and I’m so thankful. 

What are you reading right now?

Actually… nothing. Which is okay! I just got off deadline a couple days before this interview when I turned in a rewrite of my next MG book for Harper Collins. So I am currently on a (brief) word break while I reset my brain. I’ve got my fourth book of the year (I am not exaggerating that, HELP) due in November and have to start it soon!

That IS okay! It’s important to remember to take breaks!

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

Don’t compare yourself to anyone but yourself. I say that in terms of being an author AND being a person. There is a vast difference between what is presented to the world and what is actually happening, and there is much we don’t see—in art, in humanity—that affects the presentation. When it comes to writing, I compare my current works with what I’ve done before, since I want to continue growing in my craft, but I do the best I can not to compare what I do with what others are. 

Yes. Exactly this!

Thank you so much for joining us, Mark!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Jessica Vitalis!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Jessica Vitalis, the author of


Twelve-year-old Gauge’s life has been cursed since the day he witnessed a Great White Wolf steal his grandpapá’s soul, preventing it from reaching the Sea-in-the-Sky and sailing into eternity. When the superstitious residents of Bouge-by-the-Sea accuse the boy of crying wolf, he joins forces with another orphan to prove his innocence. They navigate their shared grief in a journey that ultimately reveals life-changing truths about the wolf––and death.

Let’s talk to this wonderful author about her excellent book!
This is Jessica. Everyone say, “Hi, Jessica!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Jessica! Why don’t we start with some introductions – tell us about yourself!

Thank you for having me! I’m a Columbia MBA-wielding children’s author with a passion for dark, magical stories. I’m also a mother of two teen girls and the keeper of two adorable (but mischievous) cats as well as one sweet dog. As an American expat living in Canada, I spend most of the time I’m not writing trying to stay warm.

What was the inspiration behind THE WOLF’S CURSE?

I was standing in front of my bookshelves, casting about for inspiration, when I noticed my worn copy of THE BOOK THIEF. I wondered what kind of story would emerge if I tried writing a book with Death as the narrator. And so THE WOLF’S CURSE was born!

What were you doing when you found out there was an offer on your book? (We always love these stories here at Kick-butt Kidlit!)

I was sitting at my computer when a notification of a new email from my agent flashed across my screen. I’d only been on submission for three weeks, and after several years on submission for various projects with my previous agent, I didn’t expect any news for several weeks, if not months. I opened the email and discovered not only that it was a very attractive offer from one of my dream publishers, but that they’d offered a two-book deal. I started shrieking and (ugly) crying; my daughters heard the commotion and ran in the room. I read them the email and the three of us danced and cried for the next several minutes while I tried to calm down enough to call my agent and hold a (semi) rational conversation. You can read the full story of how I got my agent and two-book deal (and see the photo my daughter snapped when she first ran into the room) here.

That photo is the BEST! Love the joy on your face!

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on THE WOLF’S CURSE?

The most interesting discovery is that the attitudes and rituals surrounding death look different all around the world. For example, a traditional practice among Buddhists in Tibet is Sky Burials, where bodies are placed at the tops of high peaks in order to feed vultures as part of the food chain. The Tinguian people of the Philippines wash their loved ones bodies, dress them in finery, and seat them at the front of the house for up to several weeks. The realization that there are many different ways to grieve and honor the dead opened a door that allowed me to develop my own rituals for THE WOLF’S CURSE.

The second thing I learned while writing THE WOLF’S CURSE is that, despite my best intentions, my stories are probably always going to combine elements of dark and light. I’d written five full manuscripts before this novel, and they were all fairly heavy. When I decided to write a book with Death (or a death-like character) as the narrator, I decided I would have fun with it—I thought perhaps I’d write an adventure or even a comedy. Although there are elements of adventure and humor in the story that emerged, no one will ever accuse me of having written a comedy!

Finally, I learned a lot about wolves, including the fact that although they have a reputation for being independent (hence the term “lone wolf”), they are actually pack animals and extremely loyal. Did you know they often mate for life?

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

What a fun question! Both Gauge and Roux are interested in seeing the world, so they’d probably enjoy leaving their French-inspired medieval/renaissance lives and exploring the modern world. I think they would get along with Kitty from Yvette Clark’s GLITTER GETS EVERYWHERE, so perhaps they could tag along with her in both London and New York?

That sounds like an adventure and a half!

Why were you drawn to writing middle grade?

My first attempt at a novel was a memoir and my second was a young adult novel. At the same time, I was exploring picture books. My critique partners kept telling me that my picture book attempts all sounded like the first chapters of middle grade novels. It wasn’t until I finished David Almond’s KIT’S WILDERNESS that I realized middle grade was the perfect fit for the stories I wanted to tell. 

Any hints about your next book project?

The only thing I can say at this point is that the premise is both the exact opposite of, and a perfect complement to, THE WOLF’S CURSE!

Ooooh! Can’t wait to hear more!

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?

How long it’s taken; I wrote six books over the course of thirteen years before landing my first book deal!

What are you reading right now?

I just finished Heather Kassner’s THE PLENTIFUL DARKNESS (so gorgeous and creepy and heartfelt!), and I’m getting ready to start THE MANY MEANINGS OF MEILAN by Andrea Wang. 

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

Never give up!


Thank you so much for joining us, Jessica!

Kick-butt Kidlit friends, make sure you check out THE WOLF’S CURSE!
It hits shelves on September 21st!

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Kicking Back with Kick-butt and Sarah Moon!

It’s time to Kick Back with Kick-butt!

Today we’re chatting with Sarah Moon, the author of


Thirteen-year-old Eli likes baggy clothes, baseball caps, and one girl in particular. Her seventeen-year-old sister Anna is more traditionally feminine; she loves boys and staying out late. They are sisters, and they are also the only family each can count on. Their dad has long been out of the picture, and their mom lives at the mercy of her next drink. When their mom lands herself in enforced rehab, Anna and Eli are left to fend for themselves. With no legal guardian to keep them out of foster care, they take matters into their own hands: Anna masquerades as Aunt Lisa, and together she and Eli hoard whatever money they can find. But their plans begin to unravel as quickly as they were made, and they are always way too close to getting caught.

Eli and Anna have each gotten used to telling lies as a means of survival, but as they navigate a world without their mother, they must learn how to accept help, and let other people in.

Let’s talk to this awesome author about her wonderful book!
This is Sarah. Everyone say, “Hi, Sarah!”

Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Sarah! Why don’t we start with some introductions – tell us about yourself!

Thank you so much for this! Things to know about me — I’m a teacher in Brooklyn, I just finished my 17th year teaching. I have a hilarious, brilliant, opinionated four year old and a wonderful, patient wife. I am an extremely amateur knitter and I love reality tv. 

What was the inspiration behind MIDDLETOWN?

I wrote MIDDLETOWN for my sister. I am the youngest of three, and my sister and I were the ones who were home once our parents got divorced. We were 12  and 15 and found ourselves alone, together, a lot. While our lives couldn’t have looked less like Eli and Anna’s, I remember feeling like it was just her and me in our little lifeboat, and so no matter how different we were from each other or how much we fought, we were always going to have to figure out how to keep the boat from tipping over. We’re still like that, I think, all these years later.

The other thing I wanted to write about was being a queer kid in a small town, which was very much my experience. It’s odd — the book is really, really different from my life, but it’s also probably the most autobiographical thing I’ll ever write.

Two sisters, Eli and Anna, are at the heart of this book. What do you think are some key factors in writing realistic sibling relationships?

Ha! I’ve never thought about that. I think it’s about doing something that’s almost impossible to do as a sibling — seeing each person as a whole and also as a part. There’s who Eli is, there’s who Anna is, and there’s who they are to each other. The parts that they show to each other, the parts they try (and fail) to hide from each other, the parts that hurt each other, and the parts that make the other person who she is. We’ll get into this more later, but I have a real *thing* about the complexities of the lives of young people, and so I think that, for me, that extends to their relationships. Nobody is just one thing, not to themselves, and not to anybody else, either. I wanted their relationship to be just as layered as the sisters themselves.

What were three interesting things you discovered while working on MIDDLETOWN?

How many Middletowns there are! I thought they were all in the northeast, but I was wrong. I also learned, as I always do when trying to write a book, that I avoid conflict on that page just as much as I avoid it in life and I always have to go back and force myself to make the characters have  the conversation they are/I am avoiding. I learned that it is indeed possible to write a book during a pandemic with a toddler, though I’m not super sure I’d like to learn that again.

Oof! That definitely sounds like a lesson that would last a lifetime!

If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?

Anna gets sent to I AM NOT YOUR PERFECT MEXICAN DAUGHTER to learn that she’s not as alone as she thinks she is, and Eli gets sent to I FELT A FUNERAL IN MY BRAIN for exactly the same reason. 

MIDDLETOWN is a middle grade novel that also feels like it could be a bridge into YA. What drew you to writing for this age group?

Sooooo, I didn’t really understand that if you write a book with an 8th grade protagonist, then it’s going to be middle grade (despite the fact that I’ve done this twice now), so there’s that. But the truth is that, while I love the high schoolers that I work with, my heart is always with middle schoolers. Throughout my teaching life, even when I’m working with older kids, I always find a way to connect with middle schoolers because they are my bread and butter. They are hilarious, honest and figuring out themselves in a way that is both excruciating and exhilarating. I invited Kacen Callender to speak at my school last year, and one thing that they said that struck a particular chord is that we write for the age group where we experienced our first trauma. I’d never thought about it like that, and I also haven’t been able to get it out of my head, so that’s probably a factor for me, too. It wasn’t easy growing up queer in my town, I came out when I was 14. I will probably always write for queer 14 year olds, just like I will probably always teach to the queer 14 year old in any classroom I’m in. 

Any hints about your next book project?

A few things! A proper middle grade that takes place at Family Week in Provincetown, and a time-hopping love story, both of which may orr may not include a plethora of queer 14 year olds. 

What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey? 

Everything about my publishing journey has been surprising and unlikely, and also in some ways very predictable because it’s very much a result of growing up as the child of a writer. The most surprising part of my publishing journey still is the moment that my heart leapt out of my chest because The Arthur A. Levine, who had just published the anthology I’d co-edited with Celeste Lecesne of the Trevor Project, told me that I should send him what I would be working on next. But the only reason that happened was because I met Celeste when I was a 12 year old kid on my bike in Provincetown because he and my mother worked together at the Fine Arts Work Center, and so it was that I ran into him again 15 years later outside of a theater in New York and said, hey, I have this idea for a book, and six months later, I was sitting in The Arthur A. Levine’s office with my jaw on the floor. I try to be very upfront about both the unlikeliness of my story and the ways in which the industry is greased for a story like mine.

Oh, wow! That’s amazing!

What are you reading right now?

I’m always reading too many books. Blackout (six powerhouses in one book — each page is a gift); All Adults Here (all things Emma Straub always); Time to Stir (a book about the Columbia strike in 1968, see aforementioned time-hopping love story), and While Justice Sleeps (a political thriller from the political genius of Stacey Abrams? Yes, please). 

Just finished BLACKOUT over here and love, love, loved it!

What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?

When I was 16 and woebegone about my wish to write but my deep, deep doubts about having any talent at all, my stepmother asked me, “Do you know what you have to do to be a writer?” I said, “No,” quite plaintively. She said, “You have to write.” I think about that every day.

That is totally it.

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