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Today we’re chatting with Mark Oshiro, the author of
Three kids who don’t belong. A room that shouldn’t exist. A year that will change everything.
San Francisco and Orangevale may be in the same state, but for Héctor Muñoz, they might as well be a million miles apart. Back home, being gay didn’t mean feeling different. At Héctor’s new school, he couldn’t feel more alone.
Most days, Héctor just wishes he could disappear. And he does. Right into the janitor’s closet. (Yes, he sees the irony.) But one day, when the door closes behind him, Héctor discovers he’s stumbled into a room that shouldn’t be possible. A room that connects him with two new friends from different corners of the country—and opens the door to a life-changing year full of magic, friendship, and adventure.
Let’s talk to this wonderful author about their fantastic book!
This is Mark. Everyone say, “Hi, Mark!”
Welcome to Kick-Butt Kidlit, Mark! Why don’t we start with some introductions – tell us about yourself!
I’m Mark Oshiro, a kidlit author of both young adult and middle grade. I’ve written Anger is a Gift, Each of Us a Desert, and my upcoming MG debut, The Insiders. When I’m not writing, I’m usually doing something outdoors, petting a dog, or on a rollercoaster.
What was the inspiration behind THE INSIDERS?
The origins of this book come from the very first manuscript I ever completed, back when I was a freshman in college. It was roundly rejected by everyone I sent it to. (I also didn’t understand that maybe you should send it to agents ONLY, and I definitely printed it out and sent THE WHOLE THING to a bunch of editors. I held on to a copy of it all these years and revisited it when I was looking at old projects for inspiration! The idea itself was pretty simple: I wanted to write a story with a gay Latino as the protagonist, and I had this idea of him finding a magical closet that took him on adventures. It was a way for me to reclaim the notion of being “in the closet.”
Oh, wow! I love that you never gave up on the story!
This is your first middle grade novel (yay!) after starting in YA. Why were you drawn to writing for a younger age level?
I wanted to challenge myself, first of all. I’ve read a lot of middle grade over the years and respected how difficult it seemed to write for that age level. I’m happy to report that it was indeed a challenge! But much like my inspiration for writing young adult fiction, I needed the kind of literature coming out now when I was a kid. I write with that mindset: there’s always a queer kid of color out there who needs to feel a little less alone.
What were three interesting things you discovered while working on THE INSIDERS?
First thing—and this is kinda cheesy—I learned that I could write middle grade! I honestly wasn’t sure I could when I started, but I’m glad I did after having written and published two other books.
Second thing: There’s a joke about Capri Sun that’s probably my favorite silly moment in the book, and it caused me to seek out Capri Sun again, and that drink STILL slaps. And there are so many more flavors now!
Third Thing: I still don’t know how time works. In literally every story I’ve ever written that takes place over more than a couple days, my copyeditors have all found incredibly bizarre mistakes concerning the progression of the days of the week. In an early draft of Anger, I fully skipped Wednesday every week; in Desert, I once had a day passing in four hours; and in The Insiders, my copyeditor pointed out that my protagonist couldn’t count days at ALL. I believe all of this says more about me than anything else.
If you could transport your characters across book dimensions, which book would you most like them to end up in and why?
I’m cheating because it’s not out yet and none of you can read it yet, but the world of The Marvellers by Dhonielle Clayton. It’s the start of a middle grade fantasy series, and Dhonielle has so cleverly re-thought the tradition of a magical school, and I am certain the characters of The Insiders would thrive there.
AH! So jealous that you’ve read it! So excited for when it’s out next year!
For our writer friends reading this, what are your best writer’s block busting tips?
I stop writing and go do literally anything else that isn’t writing. Push-ups, a bike ride, a hike, an hour of video games, chores around the house—all of it gets my brain focusing on other things and usually shakes something free in my mind. It’s also possible that writer’s block is happening because you need to refill your creative well or take a break. I know we’re all stressed and overworked right now, and the best thing I’ve learned in the last couple years is that I have to take time off or burnout will take control of me.
Any hints about your next book project?
So, I’ve been frighteningly prolific since I finish writing the first draft of The Insiders at the end of February 2020. Publishing is weird in that we’re often working on projects that are years out from release. I’ve actually finished three books since then, and they’re all in various stages of editing right now. I have two books out next year. Both are middle grade! One is a big ol’ secret, and the other is my second book for Harper Collins. It’s not a sequel to The Insiders, but another speculative fiction standalone about regret, time travel, and the most annoying magical companion of all time. I also have a third YA out in the near future, and it’s a contemporary thriller about a cult.
What has been the most surprising part of your publishing journey?
The support of educators and students. I grew up believing that books taught in school had to have been out for a billion years, that they had to be “classics,” and that generally speaking, only old and/or dead white men were used in that setting. I have lost count of the number of classrooms, schools, educational programs, reading clubs, book clubs, and literacy programs have used my YA books in an educational setting. Like… I’m also slightly sorry that my book made some kids do homework, but I’m still SHOOK. I never expected it in my wildest dreams, and I’m so thankful.
What are you reading right now?
Actually… nothing. Which is okay! I just got off deadline a couple days before this interview when I turned in a rewrite of my next MG book for Harper Collins. So I am currently on a (brief) word break while I reset my brain. I’ve got my fourth book of the year (I am not exaggerating that, HELP) due in November and have to start it soon!
That IS okay! It’s important to remember to take breaks!
What’s your favourite piece of kick-butt advice?
Don’t compare yourself to anyone but yourself. I say that in terms of being an author AND being a person. There is a vast difference between what is presented to the world and what is actually happening, and there is much we don’t see—in art, in humanity—that affects the presentation. When it comes to writing, I compare my current works with what I’ve done before, since I want to continue growing in my craft, but I do the best I can not to compare what I do with what others are.
Yes. Exactly this!
Thank you so much for joining us, Mark!
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